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	<title>Comments on: Nick Raynsford &#8211; Nobody Likes a Bad Loser</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Goldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ninth paragraph of Andrew&#039;s article makes a distinction between public opinion polling and market research: the techniques are in fact the same.  Nevertheless the survey, though carried out by Nielsen - a well known research company - was clearly biassed.  Before making a formal complaint to the Market Research Society I asked LOCOG for a copy of the actual questionnaire so as to have the full picture but the Community Consultation Manager has told me &quot;that it is not LOCOG policy to release research questionnaires to 3rd parties&quot;.  What do they have to hide?
So the complaint will be made on the basis of the summary which appears in Appendix 18 of section 3.27 of the Planning Application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ninth paragraph of Andrew&#8217;s article makes a distinction between public opinion polling and market research: the techniques are in fact the same.  Nevertheless the survey, though carried out by Nielsen &#8211; a well known research company &#8211; was clearly biassed.  Before making a formal complaint to the Market Research Society I asked LOCOG for a copy of the actual questionnaire so as to have the full picture but the Community Consultation Manager has told me &#8220;that it is not LOCOG policy to release research questionnaires to 3rd parties&#8221;.  What do they have to hide?<br />
So the complaint will be made on the basis of the summary which appears in Appendix 18 of section 3.27 of the Planning Application.</p>
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		<title>By: jezza</title>
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		<dc:creator>jezza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Tom, Andrew is unable to be balanced in his reporting and therefore any campaign suffers from his support. If the market vote had been after the council election do you think you would have had the same result? probably not, so the issue is has the campaign &#039;saved&#039; the market or merely delayed the regeneration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tom, Andrew is unable to be balanced in his reporting and therefore any campaign suffers from his support. If the market vote had been after the council election do you think you would have had the same result? probably not, so the issue is has the campaign &#8216;saved&#8217; the market or merely delayed the regeneration.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on this myth.

Christopher Rodrigues, chairman of VisitBritain, admitted in an interview in India&#039;s Economic Times (July 2009) that 2012 Olympics would drive tourists away from London.  He said, 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gamesmonitor.org.uk/node/841/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The major impact of the Olympics on tourism in the UK is going to be on other places, because many people tend to avoid the city because of all the Games hype&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

See, too, the comment below that article, 

&quot;Tom Jenkins, executive director of the ETOA, argued that the tourism benefit of staging the Olympics was something of a myth, saying that the effect of staging a large sports event is to scare regular visitors away from host cities, not just during the events themselves but in the months leading up to them.

&#039;The principal problem is the impression that everything will be overcrowded and overpriced and this blights a region,&#039;Mr Jenkins said.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on this myth.</p>
<p>Christopher Rodrigues, chairman of VisitBritain, admitted in an interview in India&#8217;s Economic Times (July 2009) that 2012 Olympics would drive tourists away from London.  He said, </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gamesmonitor.org.uk/node/841/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The major impact of the Olympics on tourism in the UK is going to be on other places, because many people tend to avoid the city because of all the Games hype&#8221;</a></p>
<p>See, too, the comment below that article, </p>
<p>&#8220;Tom Jenkins, executive director of the ETOA, argued that the tourism benefit of staging the Olympics was something of a myth, saying that the effect of staging a large sports event is to scare regular visitors away from host cities, not just during the events themselves but in the months leading up to them.</p>
<p>&#8216;The principal problem is the impression that everything will be overcrowded and overpriced and this blights a region,&#8217;Mr Jenkins said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@P Hill (Greenwich Holiday Lets), you might want to read what the experts - the European Tour Operators Association, no less - say about the alleged benefits to tourism of hosting an Olympic Games:

&quot;there appears to be little evidence of any benefit to tourism of hosting an Olympic Games, and considerable evidence of damage.&quot;

See the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gamesmonitor.org.uk/node/888&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;three reports downloadable here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@P Hill (Greenwich Holiday Lets), you might want to read what the experts &#8211; the European Tour Operators Association, no less &#8211; say about the alleged benefits to tourism of hosting an Olympic Games:</p>
<p>&#8220;there appears to be little evidence of any benefit to tourism of hosting an Olympic Games, and considerable evidence of damage.&#8221;</p>
<p>See the <a href="http://www.gamesmonitor.org.uk/node/888" rel="nofollow">three reports downloadable here</a></p>
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		<title>By: P Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>P Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a great fan of the Equestrain Olympics coming to Greenwich Village, World Heritage site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a great fan of the Equestrain Olympics coming to Greenwich Village, World Heritage site.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Raynsford was also one of the few South London Labour MPs who had guts to vote against LHR expansion.  Unfortunately, many others didn&#039;t and millions of Londoners will suffer when the expansion eventually goes ahead.    

But I agree that Raynsford has lost his marbles with the Olympics and I&#039;m very disappointd that he has resorted to dirty tactics.  This makes me question if he is really trying to do the best for his constituents or if he just wants to shine in the front row of the giant stadium (alongside council leaders) in 2012 and chooses to ignore the pain that his moments of glory will cause to ordinary people for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Raynsford was also one of the few South London Labour MPs who had guts to vote against LHR expansion.  Unfortunately, many others didn&#8217;t and millions of Londoners will suffer when the expansion eventually goes ahead.    </p>
<p>But I agree that Raynsford has lost his marbles with the Olympics and I&#8217;m very disappointd that he has resorted to dirty tactics.  This makes me question if he is really trying to do the best for his constituents or if he just wants to shine in the front row of the giant stadium (alongside council leaders) in 2012 and chooses to ignore the pain that his moments of glory will cause to ordinary people for years.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew gilligan</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew gilligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lost causes like the defeat of Ken Livingstone, Tom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lost causes like the defeat of Ken Livingstone, Tom?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What relevance is your comment here?&quot;

Plenty, since by attacking him Gilligan is yet again demonstrating his inherent inconsistency - clue: having Gilligan on your side is a flag to the rest of London that you don&#039;t have a case, generally, since he generally picks lost and pointless causes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What relevance is your comment here?&#8221;</p>
<p>Plenty, since by attacking him Gilligan is yet again demonstrating his inherent inconsistency &#8211; clue: having Gilligan on your side is a flag to the rest of London that you don&#8217;t have a case, generally, since he generally picks lost and pointless causes.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Vallance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Vallance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found Nick Raynsford really helpful when it came to getting EU funds for the redevelopment of Woolwich Arsenal, but his attitude on the equestrian Olympics is, well, a load of horseshit. It is as if he has been replaced by an evil twin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found Nick Raynsford really helpful when it came to getting EU funds for the redevelopment of Woolwich Arsenal, but his attitude on the equestrian Olympics is, well, a load of horseshit. It is as if he has been replaced by an evil twin.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and, Tom, go and find a web site about the Thames Estuary.  What relevance is your comment here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and, Tom, go and find a web site about the Thames Estuary.  What relevance is your comment here?</p>
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