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	<title>Comments on: Andrew Gilligan: Pier Pressure</title>
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		<title>By: New Roof For Greenwich Pier, But When Will The New Bits Open? &#124; Londonist</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Roof For Greenwich Pier, But When Will The New Bits Open? &#124; Londonist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to add new pavilions and a modern ticket office foundered and apparently stopped, as described by Andrew Gilligan back in 2009. The Greenwich Phantom got wind of an update in February 2011, suggesting that stuff had, in fact, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to add new pavilions and a modern ticket office foundered and apparently stopped, as described by Andrew Gilligan back in 2009. The Greenwich Phantom got wind of an update in February 2011, suggesting that stuff had, in fact, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New Roof For Greenwich Pier, But When Will The New Bits Open? &#124; Londonist</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/1727-pier-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-41774</link>
		<dc:creator>New Roof For Greenwich Pier, But When Will The New Bits Open? &#124; Londonist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to add new pavilions and a modern ticket office foundered and apparently stopped, as described by Andrew Gilligan back in 2009. The Greenwich Phantom got wind of an update in February 2011, suggesting that stuff had, in fact, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to add new pavilions and a modern ticket office foundered and apparently stopped, as described by Andrew Gilligan back in 2009. The Greenwich Phantom got wind of an update in February 2011, suggesting that stuff had, in fact, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greenwich Labyrinth &#124; The Greenwich Phantom</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/1727-pier-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-24152</link>
		<dc:creator>Greenwich Labyrinth &#124; The Greenwich Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] quite a lot of time looking for any news at all, but when the top Google result is a 2009 carp from Andrew Gilligan you know things aren&#8217;t going as fast as they might. The pier itself is yet another bit of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] quite a lot of time looking for any news at all, but when the top Google result is a 2009 carp from Andrew Gilligan you know things aren&#8217;t going as fast as they might. The pier itself is yet another bit of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chrissy stevfens</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/1727-pier-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-7317</link>
		<dc:creator>chrissy stevfens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love greenwich, I was born here 62 years ago and never ever get bored over goibng there and looking round the shops and looking over the indoor market,I also love to take a boat ride up the rivcer to the tower and get off and stroll round the gift shop of the tower, or just sit and have a cuppa and watch the many people who visit the tower.

I was so surprised they closed the market and the food stalls in the open market, it really pulled people in.
Please don&#039;t  destroy greenwich anymore, I have heard rumours of the indoor market being closed and a hotel being built there, I do hope this is just gossip as it will destroy the heart of greenwich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love greenwich, I was born here 62 years ago and never ever get bored over goibng there and looking round the shops and looking over the indoor market,I also love to take a boat ride up the rivcer to the tower and get off and stroll round the gift shop of the tower, or just sit and have a cuppa and watch the many people who visit the tower.</p>
<p>I was so surprised they closed the market and the food stalls in the open market, it really pulled people in.<br />
Please don&#8217;t  destroy greenwich anymore, I have heard rumours of the indoor market being closed and a hotel being built there, I do hope this is just gossip as it will destroy the heart of greenwich.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Tindle</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/1727-pier-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-7104</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Tindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon - long before Greenwich tried to claim credit for the Oyster card deal, I asked the Port of London Authority to take the then Vice Chair of TFL, and other board members, for a trip on the Thames. I had already discussed the Oyster card problem with Dave and the idea was to look at how we could improve river passenger services. Present, also, were senior reps of the PLA and the Chair of the Mayor of London&#039;s Thames and Waterways Commission. 

The result was that TfL agreed to look at how Oyster cards could be implemented and that took a little time: its about card readers and computer systems.

Our Great Leader&#039;s petition? I think not. After all, this is the same man who told me, last year, that he wanted to close down Charlton&#039;s aggregate yards. Murphy&#039;s and Angerstein&#039;s wharfs share a rail head so that much of the aggregates brought in by river go out by rail.  Close those yards and each 5,000 tonne delivery becomes 250 lorry movements. 

Beware Greenwich Council leaders bearing gifts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon &#8211; long before Greenwich tried to claim credit for the Oyster card deal, I asked the Port of London Authority to take the then Vice Chair of TFL, and other board members, for a trip on the Thames. I had already discussed the Oyster card problem with Dave and the idea was to look at how we could improve river passenger services. Present, also, were senior reps of the PLA and the Chair of the Mayor of London&#8217;s Thames and Waterways Commission. </p>
<p>The result was that TfL agreed to look at how Oyster cards could be implemented and that took a little time: its about card readers and computer systems.</p>
<p>Our Great Leader&#8217;s petition? I think not. After all, this is the same man who told me, last year, that he wanted to close down Charlton&#8217;s aggregate yards. Murphy&#8217;s and Angerstein&#8217;s wharfs share a rail head so that much of the aggregates brought in by river go out by rail.  Close those yards and each 5,000 tonne delivery becomes 250 lorry movements. </p>
<p>Beware Greenwich Council leaders bearing gifts!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/1727-pier-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-7089</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - whilst I am happy to correct my earlier statement that the Council and BH set up Thames Clipper, the fact remains that during difficult times both of these parties pumped in large sums of money into keeping the now very profitable Woolwich route. There was a time when the service was promoted week in week out in the Council newspaper, Greenwich Time, presumably free of charge - hence my comment re bite the hand that feeds.

As for the Oyster card campaign being a &quot;sham and done deal&quot; I couldn&#039;t disagree more. Do you really think that this current Mayor would have missed the chance of a photo op if that were the case.

I also never saw any official denial from Boris - just a comment from a Tory GLA member which was refuted by the Council. 

And given Greenwich Council&#039;s track record in succesfully campaigning for new transport links (Crossrail/Greenwich Jubilee line extension) and Boris&#039; record of cutting them (Thames Gateway Bridge, Waterfront bus service) - whilst I dont trust the council on some things, I would over this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; whilst I am happy to correct my earlier statement that the Council and BH set up Thames Clipper, the fact remains that during difficult times both of these parties pumped in large sums of money into keeping the now very profitable Woolwich route. There was a time when the service was promoted week in week out in the Council newspaper, Greenwich Time, presumably free of charge &#8211; hence my comment re bite the hand that feeds.</p>
<p>As for the Oyster card campaign being a &#8220;sham and done deal&#8221; I couldn&#8217;t disagree more. Do you really think that this current Mayor would have missed the chance of a photo op if that were the case.</p>
<p>I also never saw any official denial from Boris &#8211; just a comment from a Tory GLA member which was refuted by the Council. </p>
<p>And given Greenwich Council&#8217;s track record in succesfully campaigning for new transport links (Crossrail/Greenwich Jubilee line extension) and Boris&#8217; record of cutting them (Thames Gateway Bridge, Waterfront bus service) &#8211; whilst I dont trust the council on some things, I would over this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Ellson</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/1727-pier-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-7076</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Ellson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon - Neither Greenwich Council nor Berkeley Homes had any involvement with nor any investment in the establishment of Thames Clippers. They simply paid for a service to Woolwich. The Greenwich &#039;campaign&#039; to extend Oyster Cards to Thames Clippers was a sham and a farce. The decision was already in the pipeline and Greenwich did not even bother to tell Transport for London of their so-called campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon &#8211; Neither Greenwich Council nor Berkeley Homes had any involvement with nor any investment in the establishment of Thames Clippers. They simply paid for a service to Woolwich. The Greenwich &#8216;campaign&#8217; to extend Oyster Cards to Thames Clippers was a sham and a farce. The decision was already in the pipeline and Greenwich did not even bother to tell Transport for London of their so-called campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/1727-pier-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-7054</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A case of bite the hand that feeds from Sean Collins?

Greenwich Council set up Thames Clipper together with Berkeley Homes - subsidised it during the early years before it took off and won a campaign to extend Oyster cards to the service...

Is this the way Sean Collins sees it fit to repay them? Who need friends eh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A case of bite the hand that feeds from Sean Collins?</p>
<p>Greenwich Council set up Thames Clipper together with Berkeley Homes &#8211; subsidised it during the early years before it took off and won a campaign to extend Oyster cards to the service&#8230;</p>
<p>Is this the way Sean Collins sees it fit to repay them? Who need friends eh&#8230;</p>
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