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		<title>By: Blissett</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/a2-closed-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-4085</link>
		<dc:creator>Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 22:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

There is a very big difference between repairs and development. Projects such as the development of Greenwich Market occur once a generation and necessarily involve a long lead time. Short of a fire or terrorist attack, nothing is going to happen that would require this work to be hurried through.

Maintenance of the highways however is an ongoing task and frequently has to be done at short notice. In this case, remedial repair work was undertaken around the start of the year to fill the many large potholes. However, the severe weather undid all of this work (I assume by water getting into the cracks in the surface, freezing, expanding and break out the filled parts) as a result there was clearly no choice but to force through the full refurbishment that was probably planned for later in the year because the road had become dangerous.

As for the posts, as I said before, the stretch of Heath between the tea hut and roundabout is lined with old wooden posts and noone seemed to be calling for these to be dug up on safety grounds. If there have been any recorded cases of the existing posts leading to injuries then this would certainly be worth knowing but as the old ones are still there, I&#039;m assuming this is not the case.

As for the hills on either side, I find it very hard to see grass as an eyesore. I suspect the reason for them is to create defined crossing points for pedestrians and possibly to provide and additional barrier between those pedestrians and what is a very busy road. Both reasons seem sensible although not entirely necessary. But as I say, it a grass bank and I fail to see how that could be seen as in any way objectionable. It&#039;s not like it a metal crash barrier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>There is a very big difference between repairs and development. Projects such as the development of Greenwich Market occur once a generation and necessarily involve a long lead time. Short of a fire or terrorist attack, nothing is going to happen that would require this work to be hurried through.</p>
<p>Maintenance of the highways however is an ongoing task and frequently has to be done at short notice. In this case, remedial repair work was undertaken around the start of the year to fill the many large potholes. However, the severe weather undid all of this work (I assume by water getting into the cracks in the surface, freezing, expanding and break out the filled parts) as a result there was clearly no choice but to force through the full refurbishment that was probably planned for later in the year because the road had become dangerous.</p>
<p>As for the posts, as I said before, the stretch of Heath between the tea hut and roundabout is lined with old wooden posts and noone seemed to be calling for these to be dug up on safety grounds. If there have been any recorded cases of the existing posts leading to injuries then this would certainly be worth knowing but as the old ones are still there, I&#8217;m assuming this is not the case.</p>
<p>As for the hills on either side, I find it very hard to see grass as an eyesore. I suspect the reason for them is to create defined crossing points for pedestrians and possibly to provide and additional barrier between those pedestrians and what is a very busy road. Both reasons seem sensible although not entirely necessary. But as I say, it a grass bank and I fail to see how that could be seen as in any way objectionable. It&#8217;s not like it a metal crash barrier.</p>
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		<title>By: peter Gore</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 09:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see where Blissett is coming from !!! but he is missing the point.
I agree the road did need resurfacing and a very nice road it is now with beautiful red lines.
However those 8x8 inch square 4ft long posts with 2ft visible and 2ft  concreted into 18inch diameter holes are dangerous and when some someone collides with them even in the relative safety of there car they will find how unforgiving they are, thus my concerns that these same posts are potentially lethal to the more vulnerable road users.
As for his comments about defacing a local landmark, thats exactly what has been done with the new earth banking ( maybe this another form of defense after vehicles breech the posts )
Apart from putting obstacles in the way of pedestrian users of the heath it has created a nasty little slope towards those evil posts.
Who does it benefit ! why is it there now ! to the best of my knowledge it hasn&#039;t been there in the 45 years that i have been driving through Blackheath.
Are we now remodeling this &quot;local landmark&quot; for the benefit of the few who live in close proximity to view.
What to me is laughable and slightly contemptuous is Blissetts comments about the need to rush the road repairs through because of the potholes being made worse by the hard winter, when and i quote from a previous statement of his on another blog &quot;MOST PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN PLANNED IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER FOR YEARS&quot;
A little contradictory don&#039;t you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see where Blissett is coming from !!! but he is missing the point.<br />
I agree the road did need resurfacing and a very nice road it is now with beautiful red lines.<br />
However those 8&#215;8 inch square 4ft long posts with 2ft visible and 2ft  concreted into 18inch diameter holes are dangerous and when some someone collides with them even in the relative safety of there car they will find how unforgiving they are, thus my concerns that these same posts are potentially lethal to the more vulnerable road users.<br />
As for his comments about defacing a local landmark, thats exactly what has been done with the new earth banking ( maybe this another form of defense after vehicles breech the posts )<br />
Apart from putting obstacles in the way of pedestrian users of the heath it has created a nasty little slope towards those evil posts.<br />
Who does it benefit ! why is it there now ! to the best of my knowledge it hasn&#8217;t been there in the 45 years that i have been driving through Blackheath.<br />
Are we now remodeling this &#8220;local landmark&#8221; for the benefit of the few who live in close proximity to view.<br />
What to me is laughable and slightly contemptuous is Blissetts comments about the need to rush the road repairs through because of the potholes being made worse by the hard winter, when and i quote from a previous statement of his on another blog &#8220;MOST PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN PLANNED IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER FOR YEARS&#8221;<br />
A little contradictory don&#8217;t you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Blissett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a late comer to this Blog, and therefore this thread, I&#039;d just like to point out that anyone who does not think that the resurfacing works across the Heath we not absolutely necessary clearly, like Mr Gilligan, doesn&#039;t drive along this stretch of road very often. 

The potholes that were scattered along this stretch of road were very obviously a danger to drivers, their cars, and particularly cyclists and motorcyclists. I suspect that the main reason for the lack of much prior warning was that the works had to be hurried through at very short notice due to the road becoming very dangerous, very quickly. Attempts to patch up the road had been undone by the spell of particularly bad weather which saw the snow and ice cause widespread damage to the surface and I&#039;ve no doubt it was a case of &quot;we can&#039;t leave this any longer&quot;.

As for the wooden posts, I have no idea whether they are a danger to cyclists or not. What I do know is that a significant stretch of the Heath had them already and noone seemed to be kicking up too much of a fuss. They look very smart and if they serve the purpose of preventing cars from entering the Heath then I&#039;m happy. 

However, the idea that collapsible alternatives should have been used instead is laughable. No doubt, had these been used, this blog would have been peppered with comments from people complaining about the defacing of a local landmark and demanding to know why something more sympathetic had not been used instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a late comer to this Blog, and therefore this thread, I&#8217;d just like to point out that anyone who does not think that the resurfacing works across the Heath we not absolutely necessary clearly, like Mr Gilligan, doesn&#8217;t drive along this stretch of road very often. </p>
<p>The potholes that were scattered along this stretch of road were very obviously a danger to drivers, their cars, and particularly cyclists and motorcyclists. I suspect that the main reason for the lack of much prior warning was that the works had to be hurried through at very short notice due to the road becoming very dangerous, very quickly. Attempts to patch up the road had been undone by the spell of particularly bad weather which saw the snow and ice cause widespread damage to the surface and I&#8217;ve no doubt it was a case of &#8220;we can&#8217;t leave this any longer&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for the wooden posts, I have no idea whether they are a danger to cyclists or not. What I do know is that a significant stretch of the Heath had them already and noone seemed to be kicking up too much of a fuss. They look very smart and if they serve the purpose of preventing cars from entering the Heath then I&#8217;m happy. </p>
<p>However, the idea that collapsible alternatives should have been used instead is laughable. No doubt, had these been used, this blog would have been peppered with comments from people complaining about the defacing of a local landmark and demanding to know why something more sympathetic had not been used instead.</p>
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		<title>By: peter gore</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 09:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the A2 issue, I hope everyone is a bit happier now the road is open again. As the owner of the Tea Hut  i am not  the happiest bunny in the world. 
Although not fenced in anymore the standing area for customers is approximately 12inches below the kerb, creating a trip hazard !! I hope none of my ever so slightly inebriated customers fall in the road.
On the same note is it only me that thinks all those 8 by 8 2ft high wooden posts firmly set in concrete are dangerous to cyclists and motorcycle riders should they have an accident, as a motorcycle rider myself  i can imagine the damage they would cause, let alone the risks they impart to pedestrians stumbling down that ridiculously short steep bank that has been created. FOR WHAT REASON !!
 In these days of health and safety awareness and with collapsible alternatives who in there right mind let the designers erect these death traps........I am looking for support to bring the Tea Hut into the 21century as it&#039;s one of the oldest established  business&#039;s in the area. look out for www.theblackheathteahut.co.uk   coming soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the A2 issue, I hope everyone is a bit happier now the road is open again. As the owner of the Tea Hut  i am not  the happiest bunny in the world.<br />
Although not fenced in anymore the standing area for customers is approximately 12inches below the kerb, creating a trip hazard !! I hope none of my ever so slightly inebriated customers fall in the road.<br />
On the same note is it only me that thinks all those 8 by 8 2ft high wooden posts firmly set in concrete are dangerous to cyclists and motorcycle riders should they have an accident, as a motorcycle rider myself  i can imagine the damage they would cause, let alone the risks they impart to pedestrians stumbling down that ridiculously short steep bank that has been created. FOR WHAT REASON !!<br />
 In these days of health and safety awareness and with collapsible alternatives who in there right mind let the designers erect these death traps&#8230;&#8230;..I am looking for support to bring the Tea Hut into the 21century as it&#8217;s one of the oldest established  business&#8217;s in the area. look out for <a href="http://www.theblackheathteahut.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.theblackheathteahut.co.uk</a>   coming soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Elias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Elias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) The 2 lights at Maze Hill and by the BP garage. Why? It just encourages people to cut down the back via Maze Hill and slows the flow of traffic.

2) The 1 way system in Greenwich. How do we stop people cutting in at the last moment to go down Trafalgar Road. It used to be 1 or 2 now its a constant stream of selfish drivers

3) How much money was spent a few years ago at the Blackwall Lane/ tunnel approach slip Rd. Hundreds of cars leave the A2 via the long slip Rd then do the illegal right turn and go back on preventing people trying to access the Blackwall Tunnel. Surely a camera would do the trick.

4) Finally more queue jumpers coming from the northern approach to the tunnel. All the way back from Bow interchange cars leave the A12 cut by tesco back on leave via the local traffic lane and scoot along side the A12 back on then use the local lane traffic till the last minute and cut in to get onto the southbound lane to the Blackwall Tunnel. A 15 minute bus journey from work can sometimes take up to 1hr 20mins us

Robertually 45 mins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) The 2 lights at Maze Hill and by the BP garage. Why? It just encourages people to cut down the back via Maze Hill and slows the flow of traffic.</p>
<p>2) The 1 way system in Greenwich. How do we stop people cutting in at the last moment to go down Trafalgar Road. It used to be 1 or 2 now its a constant stream of selfish drivers</p>
<p>3) How much money was spent a few years ago at the Blackwall Lane/ tunnel approach slip Rd. Hundreds of cars leave the A2 via the long slip Rd then do the illegal right turn and go back on preventing people trying to access the Blackwall Tunnel. Surely a camera would do the trick.</p>
<p>4) Finally more queue jumpers coming from the northern approach to the tunnel. All the way back from Bow interchange cars leave the A12 cut by tesco back on leave via the local traffic lane and scoot along side the A12 back on then use the local lane traffic till the last minute and cut in to get onto the southbound lane to the Blackwall Tunnel. A 15 minute bus journey from work can sometimes take up to 1hr 20mins us</p>
<p>Robertually 45 mins</p>
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		<title>By: nf</title>
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		<dc:creator>nf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more day to go, suddenly workers as far as the eye can see on Shooters Hill Road trying to finish in time for the marathon.
From my experience the evenings have been far worse than the morning rush hour, and once the road re-opens there are new barriers to contend with, namely I have noticed new time restrictions on certain roads off the main carriageway (I think General Wolfe Road?)
I am just happy the road is reopening, let&#039;s hope it was worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more day to go, suddenly workers as far as the eye can see on Shooters Hill Road trying to finish in time for the marathon.<br />
From my experience the evenings have been far worse than the morning rush hour, and once the road re-opens there are new barriers to contend with, namely I have noticed new time restrictions on certain roads off the main carriageway (I think General Wolfe Road?)<br />
I am just happy the road is reopening, let&#8217;s hope it was worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone tell me when the ROADWORKS on the A2 /BLACKHEATH will come to an end?

When they started back in FEBRUARY they say 8 WEEKS?????????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone tell me when the ROADWORKS on the A2 /BLACKHEATH will come to an end?</p>
<p>When they started back in FEBRUARY they say 8 WEEKS?????????????????</p>
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		<title>By: HLB</title>
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		<dc:creator>HLB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a few days to go and the roadworks on the A2 will come to an end with the assurance that the new sound absorbing road surface should last up to 40 years! That will be no thanks to Thames Water and their inefficient repair of the water main which held up road works for nearly two weeks. A gentle reminder to those who have requested work take place 24/7 as there were no residencies in the immediate area - Wat Tyler Road to the junction of Blackheath Hill with Greenwich South Street is a RESIDENTIAL area with numerous houses and flats on both sides of the road. I am one of them and I can assure you that when the road servicing plant machinery is in action the whole house shakes.  I suggest that those complaining are part of the usual &#039;not on my doorstep&#039; Greenwich crowd who have become selfish and insular in their outlook with regards to the greater community. Get a life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a few days to go and the roadworks on the A2 will come to an end with the assurance that the new sound absorbing road surface should last up to 40 years! That will be no thanks to Thames Water and their inefficient repair of the water main which held up road works for nearly two weeks. A gentle reminder to those who have requested work take place 24/7 as there were no residencies in the immediate area &#8211; Wat Tyler Road to the junction of Blackheath Hill with Greenwich South Street is a RESIDENTIAL area with numerous houses and flats on both sides of the road. I am one of them and I can assure you that when the road servicing plant machinery is in action the whole house shakes.  I suggest that those complaining are part of the usual &#8216;not on my doorstep&#8217; Greenwich crowd who have become selfish and insular in their outlook with regards to the greater community. Get a life!</p>
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		<title>By: David Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drive into London around 4 times a month from Canterbury and sometimes from Ashford. There&#039;s hardly been a time in the past 25 years when there hasn&#039;t been some planned work which is/was a major cause of traffic stillness on one of those routes.  

I used to believe that all would be well once the planned works have come to an end.  I now know that to hope for such an end is unrealistic and each location must take its turn in hosting the steel carnival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drive into London around 4 times a month from Canterbury and sometimes from Ashford. There&#8217;s hardly been a time in the past 25 years when there hasn&#8217;t been some planned work which is/was a major cause of traffic stillness on one of those routes.  </p>
<p>I used to believe that all would be well once the planned works have come to an end.  I now know that to hope for such an end is unrealistic and each location must take its turn in hosting the steel carnival.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop Press</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop Press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone noticed that the works now scheduled to finish at the end of April now?  Joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone noticed that the works now scheduled to finish at the end of April now?  Joy.</p>
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