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		<title>By: Boris&#8217;s river of delusion &#171; 853</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/sick-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-22400</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris&#8217;s river of delusion &#171; 853</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Thamesmead version of which was axed 18 months ago after being branded a Ken Livingstone &#8220;vanity project&#8221; by one of the mayor&#8217;s supporters. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: East London Crossing Study : A Bridge Too Far?</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/sick-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-6209</link>
		<dc:creator>East London Crossing Study : A Bridge Too Far?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8216;&#8230;worthless Greenwich-area extravagances, such as the new £500 million Thames Gateway bridge&#8230;&#8217; - greenwich.co.uk [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Revealed: £2.75m down the River &#171; Confessions of a Political Animal</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/sick-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-3444</link>
		<dc:creator>Revealed: £2.75m down the River &#171; Confessions of a Political Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Given the opprobium heaped on the Transit scheme by Boris-friendly commentators, in particular Andrew Gilligan, its survival in November was very surprising: all the more so as its proposed future extensions [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Milton</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/sick-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>James Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sacha, 

&#039;A lot of residents (of the Arsenal) think the Thames Clipper service is exclusively for them.&#039;

How do you work this out? The clipper is used by people all along the Thames , it is a commercial service and takes people&#039;s money. That a lot of people from the Arsenal use it is simply because they live next to the river. I have met a number of people on the clipper who take it from Woolwich who don&#039;t live in the Arsenal but use it because it is a pleasant service. 

Incidentally, on what basis do you say that we want to be cut off from the rest of SE18? We have to shop, we have to use the roads and the public amenities and everything else that rests within the area. We have just as much a vested interest in SE18 being pleasant, and that is one of the arguments we are making against driving a bus route through a beautiful pedestrianised area. 

No 1 Street is used by the Museum and the Council and was used by the Greenwich Half Marathon and the Tour De France. It is a beautiful, open and above all community asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sacha, </p>
<p>&#8216;A lot of residents (of the Arsenal) think the Thames Clipper service is exclusively for them.&#8217;</p>
<p>How do you work this out? The clipper is used by people all along the Thames , it is a commercial service and takes people&#8217;s money. That a lot of people from the Arsenal use it is simply because they live next to the river. I have met a number of people on the clipper who take it from Woolwich who don&#8217;t live in the Arsenal but use it because it is a pleasant service. </p>
<p>Incidentally, on what basis do you say that we want to be cut off from the rest of SE18? We have to shop, we have to use the roads and the public amenities and everything else that rests within the area. We have just as much a vested interest in SE18 being pleasant, and that is one of the arguments we are making against driving a bus route through a beautiful pedestrianised area. </p>
<p>No 1 Street is used by the Museum and the Council and was used by the Greenwich Half Marathon and the Tour De France. It is a beautiful, open and above all community asset.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/sick-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If an alternative to the current 472 is really wanted there are alternatives available that TFL can not be bothered to look at or cost. There is for example land in front of the industrial buildings on the site and roads leading up to them already in existence. 

No residential area should have an  unwanted bus route forced on to them and have to endure the noise and pollution they bring into their homes.

Boris Johnson has asked for an extra £15M to be found to fund the london overland extension - this overpriced, unwanted bus route would be an excellent opportunity for him.

(and as for Thames Clipper - it is open to anyone who wants to pay to use it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If an alternative to the current 472 is really wanted there are alternatives available that TFL can not be bothered to look at or cost. There is for example land in front of the industrial buildings on the site and roads leading up to them already in existence. </p>
<p>No residential area should have an  unwanted bus route forced on to them and have to endure the noise and pollution they bring into their homes.</p>
<p>Boris Johnson has asked for an extra £15M to be found to fund the london overland extension &#8211; this overpriced, unwanted bus route would be an excellent opportunity for him.</p>
<p>(and as for Thames Clipper &#8211; it is open to anyone who wants to pay to use it)</p>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/sick-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Sacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Arsenal has been more accesible since they pulled the wall down along Plumstead road, but there is a real problem with people who live there thinking they should be cut off from the rest of SE18. For example a lot of residents think the Thames Clipper service is exclusively for them.

Whether the transit is a good idea, I dunno, the 472 is over loaded at the moment, and sorry Andrew, it could do with bendi buses to ease the pressure, seats would be lovely, getting on a bus full stop would be even better, and if it happens to bend in the middle then so be it. Otherwise, it&#039;s off to the DLR in January for a quick ride to Canning Town to get on the Jubilee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Arsenal has been more accesible since they pulled the wall down along Plumstead road, but there is a real problem with people who live there thinking they should be cut off from the rest of SE18. For example a lot of residents think the Thames Clipper service is exclusively for them.</p>
<p>Whether the transit is a good idea, I dunno, the 472 is over loaded at the moment, and sorry Andrew, it could do with bendi buses to ease the pressure, seats would be lovely, getting on a bus full stop would be even better, and if it happens to bend in the middle then so be it. Otherwise, it&#8217;s off to the DLR in January for a quick ride to Canning Town to get on the Jubilee</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Milton</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/sick-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crispin, 

The Royal Arsenal is open and accessible to everyone. People wander through it all the time, particularly the pedestrian areas and the parks are frequently used by people who don&#039;t live there. 

What we don&#039;t want is buses thundering through what is a valuable community resource in a crowded city: namely a beautiful pedestrian area with heritage buildings next to it. 

Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crispin, </p>
<p>The Royal Arsenal is open and accessible to everyone. People wander through it all the time, particularly the pedestrian areas and the parks are frequently used by people who don&#8217;t live there. </p>
<p>What we don&#8217;t want is buses thundering through what is a valuable community resource in a crowded city: namely a beautiful pedestrian area with heritage buildings next to it. </p>
<p>Jamie</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Gilligan</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/sick-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Gilligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crispin,

thanks for your comment. In fact, the 1.7km of bus-only road you refer to already exists (on the Peninsula, south of the Dome) and has been used by the existing bus services, including the 472, for the last eight years. It cannot therefore be claimed as &quot;new&quot; or as a benefit of this scheme. The TfL website does, however, show a new stretch of bus-only road on Western Way, Thamesmead, amounting, as I said, to around half a mile. 

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crispin,</p>
<p>thanks for your comment. In fact, the 1.7km of bus-only road you refer to already exists (on the Peninsula, south of the Dome) and has been used by the existing bus services, including the 472, for the last eight years. It cannot therefore be claimed as &#8220;new&#8221; or as a benefit of this scheme. The TfL website does, however, show a new stretch of bus-only road on Western Way, Thamesmead, amounting, as I said, to around half a mile. </p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Crispin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crispin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Andrew Gilligan bothered to check the TfL website he would see that the new bus road is 1.7km (over a mile) which I think is pretty impressive for a built up area of London. I live in Thamesmead and it takes ages for buses to get round Pettman Crescent and up Plumstead Road in the morning rush hour, and this will speed everything up. Regarding the Royal Arsenal, typical that the residents in their posh flats dont want us proles going into their development. I think the Royal Arsenal should be open and accessible to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Andrew Gilligan bothered to check the TfL website he would see that the new bus road is 1.7km (over a mile) which I think is pretty impressive for a built up area of London. I live in Thamesmead and it takes ages for buses to get round Pettman Crescent and up Plumstead Road in the morning rush hour, and this will speed everything up. Regarding the Royal Arsenal, typical that the residents in their posh flats dont want us proles going into their development. I think the Royal Arsenal should be open and accessible to everyone.</p>
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