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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Horse Manure by Michael Goldman</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/horse-manure/#comment-874</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words fail me on the vacuity of the KPMG report so here's a bit of Horace which I remember from schooldays long ago:
"Parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words fail me on the vacuity of the KPMG report so here&#8217;s a bit of Horace which I remember from schooldays long ago:<br />
&#8220;Parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Horse Manure by PLJAIKJ</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/horse-manure/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>PLJAIKJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 'stitch-up' campaign of burying bad news before Christmas seems to have worked in that the national press hardly noticed this flawed review. Only the Telegraph ran a derogatory story that KPMG was paid £200,000 for a conclusion that didn't save a penny.  Crikey - for that amount even I would endure talking to LOCOG for 4 months! 

Through Freedom of Information it was learned that KPMG's terms of reference were to consider and comment on studies presently being considered by LOCOG. But here's the rub: through FOI it was also learned that no cost benefit analysis was carried out initially by LOCOG before recommending Greenwich Park. It's amazing that a £12m decision was taken on criteria such as the need for a compact Games and for competitors to be housed nearby in the Olympic Village. Conveniently Greenwich Park has now become the default choice, and a reference point for financial comparisons with other venues.

The KPMG report suggests that moving the venue would incur additional costs in terms of accommodation, security and transport. If they had done their own research rather than accept what LOCOG said, KPMG might have discovered that, had Windsor Park been considered, accommodation would not need to be built, as Holloway College is 2 miles away and it is close to Eton, where the rowers will be. LOCOG also conveniently state that the riding event of Modern Penthatlon has to be near the Olympic stadium, and that building a second stadium would not make financial sense. True, but why not use an existing sports stadium in East London or West Ham's ground? LOCOG are deperately trying to justify the unjustifiable.

Also in the report KPMG make the assertion that this will be a wonderful experience for residents of the borough? On what evidence are they basing this?If they made a distinction between the residents who live in the vicinity of the Park and the rest of the borough, and between Park users and non-users, they would get a better understanding of the local opposition.

The KPMG report also states that the Park has received approval from the equestrian federations. This is hard to believe unless the minimum requirements of the FEI, who are equally desperate for their own selfish reasons to retain the Park, are being relaxed. For example:  training facilities (no 80m gallop) are inadequate, and the new course, if only 5km, is well below Olympic standard, and this won't please the competitors. There are also the dangers of using a new untried course with many twists and turns, as the accident recently in the "20/20" event at Cardiff  proved.

What a whitewash!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8217;stitch-up&#8217; campaign of burying bad news before Christmas seems to have worked in that the national press hardly noticed this flawed review. Only the Telegraph ran a derogatory story that KPMG was paid £200,000 for a conclusion that didn&#8217;t save a penny.  Crikey - for that amount even I would endure talking to LOCOG for 4 months! </p>
<p>Through Freedom of Information it was learned that KPMG&#8217;s terms of reference were to consider and comment on studies presently being considered by LOCOG. But here&#8217;s the rub: through FOI it was also learned that no cost benefit analysis was carried out initially by LOCOG before recommending Greenwich Park. It&#8217;s amazing that a £12m decision was taken on criteria such as the need for a compact Games and for competitors to be housed nearby in the Olympic Village. Conveniently Greenwich Park has now become the default choice, and a reference point for financial comparisons with other venues.</p>
<p>The KPMG report suggests that moving the venue would incur additional costs in terms of accommodation, security and transport. If they had done their own research rather than accept what LOCOG said, KPMG might have discovered that, had Windsor Park been considered, accommodation would not need to be built, as Holloway College is 2 miles away and it is close to Eton, where the rowers will be. LOCOG also conveniently state that the riding event of Modern Penthatlon has to be near the Olympic stadium, and that building a second stadium would not make financial sense. True, but why not use an existing sports stadium in East London or West Ham&#8217;s ground? LOCOG are deperately trying to justify the unjustifiable.</p>
<p>Also in the report KPMG make the assertion that this will be a wonderful experience for residents of the borough? On what evidence are they basing this?If they made a distinction between the residents who live in the vicinity of the Park and the rest of the borough, and between Park users and non-users, they would get a better understanding of the local opposition.</p>
<p>The KPMG report also states that the Park has received approval from the equestrian federations. This is hard to believe unless the minimum requirements of the FEI, who are equally desperate for their own selfish reasons to retain the Park, are being relaxed. For example:  training facilities (no 80m gallop) are inadequate, and the new course, if only 5km, is well below Olympic standard, and this won&#8217;t please the competitors. There are also the dangers of using a new untried course with many twists and turns, as the accident recently in the &#8220;20/20&#8243; event at Cardiff  proved.</p>
<p>What a whitewash!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monopoly Competition: Park Lane by rob</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/magazine/monopoly-competition-park-lane/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is an easy choice then since there's only option but it sounds like the best option to me too. Tom, Lorraine and PLJAIKJ all receive one entry in the prize draw,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is an easy choice then since there&#8217;s only option but it sounds like the best option to me too. Tom, Lorraine and PLJAIKJ all receive one entry in the prize draw,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monopoly Competition: Park Lane by PLJAIKJ</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/magazine/monopoly-competition-park-lane/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>PLJAIKJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Crooms Hill is the obvious choice , not only because it is adjacent to a royal park, but it also has fine Georgian properties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Crooms Hill is the obvious choice , not only because it is adjacent to a royal park, but it also has fine Georgian properties.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monopoly Competition: Park Lane by Lorraine</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/magazine/monopoly-competition-park-lane/#comment-863</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crooms Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crooms Hill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Display Your Picture at Viewfinder Gallery by Brennan</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/whats-on/display-your-picture-at-viewfinder-gallery/#comment-862</link>
		<dc:creator>Brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad i found this post. I dont live in greenwich myself but do have a cousin who lives there and happens to be a photographer. she will rush there no doubt when I tell her of this oppurtinity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad i found this post. I dont live in greenwich myself but do have a cousin who lives there and happens to be a photographer. she will rush there no doubt when I tell her of this oppurtinity</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monopoly Competition: Park Lane by Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/magazine/monopoly-competition-park-lane/#comment-861</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to say Crooms Hill. Park Lane is adjacent to Hyde Park. Crooms Hill is adjacent to Greenwich Park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to say Crooms Hill. Park Lane is adjacent to Hyde Park. Crooms Hill is adjacent to Greenwich Park.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Olympic Gridlock by PLJAIKJ</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/andrew-gilligan/olympic-gridlock/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>PLJAIKJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Andrew for bringing this to the notice of local residents. People like yourself and NOGOE members have been accused of scare-mongering, yet objecters have actually shown a great deal of foresight compared with the tunnel vision of the Olympics supporters. Road closures won't be the biggest problem - wait till the stadium builders and horse boxes move in, and with them the traffic jams, noise, smell and pollution!

They selected Greenwich Park without a cost-benefit analysis, and merely for a compact Games. What the organisers didn't do was to assess the Park in its context: in the middle of a congested, world-famous tourist centre - where any closures will bring the daily lives of people to a grinding halt. 

We're not just talking of road closures. It has been confirmed that the whole Park will be closed for 6 - 7 weeks, depriving children of the playground and cricketers of their pitch; and also excluding daily walkers and joggers; and where will dog walkers go? The lower end of the Park will be closed for 7 months from March to October - so no football for the students and school trips during the week; no weekend sun bathers in this part of the Park that is near public transport and amenities; no green space for people from Deptford and Isle of Dogs who can walk to this part of the Park. Totally out of proportion for 6 days of Olympics with questionable benefits.

Then there are the security aspects: high fencing above the Jacobean walls - with cameras, dogs and floodlighting; the closure of narrow, residential streets that border 3 sides of the Park; the terrorist threat to thousands of residents in a World Heritage Site; the mayhem as 23000+ people spectators walk to the Park through the town centre, obstructing even emergency vehicles from getting through . This information has been confirmed by LOCOG in recent consultations and amounts to disruption on a massive scale. It is unprecedented for a public space to be closed for such a length of time. It is unprecedented for road closures to disrupt daily life on such a scale.

And has anyone quantified the loss to the local economy from all this disruption? The local traders have been hoodwinked into thinking that any loss in visitor numbers will be compensated by extra trade after the Olympics. The Olympics need Greenwich more than Greenwich needs the Olympics.

So, while Greenwich Council supports this event for the sake of local pride, a few contracts and temporary jobs, and free riding lessons for the disadvantaged, we, the residents of Greenwich and users of Greenwich Park, are expected to sit back and watch this nightmare turn into a reality. Or we can object to this undemocratic decision and press for a more suitable venue for the equestrian events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew for bringing this to the notice of local residents. People like yourself and NOGOE members have been accused of scare-mongering, yet objecters have actually shown a great deal of foresight compared with the tunnel vision of the Olympics supporters. Road closures won&#8217;t be the biggest problem - wait till the stadium builders and horse boxes move in, and with them the traffic jams, noise, smell and pollution!</p>
<p>They selected Greenwich Park without a cost-benefit analysis, and merely for a compact Games. What the organisers didn&#8217;t do was to assess the Park in its context: in the middle of a congested, world-famous tourist centre - where any closures will bring the daily lives of people to a grinding halt. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re not just talking of road closures. It has been confirmed that the whole Park will be closed for 6 - 7 weeks, depriving children of the playground and cricketers of their pitch; and also excluding daily walkers and joggers; and where will dog walkers go? The lower end of the Park will be closed for 7 months from March to October - so no football for the students and school trips during the week; no weekend sun bathers in this part of the Park that is near public transport and amenities; no green space for people from Deptford and Isle of Dogs who can walk to this part of the Park. Totally out of proportion for 6 days of Olympics with questionable benefits.</p>
<p>Then there are the security aspects: high fencing above the Jacobean walls - with cameras, dogs and floodlighting; the closure of narrow, residential streets that border 3 sides of the Park; the terrorist threat to thousands of residents in a World Heritage Site; the mayhem as 23000+ people spectators walk to the Park through the town centre, obstructing even emergency vehicles from getting through . This information has been confirmed by LOCOG in recent consultations and amounts to disruption on a massive scale. It is unprecedented for a public space to be closed for such a length of time. It is unprecedented for road closures to disrupt daily life on such a scale.</p>
<p>And has anyone quantified the loss to the local economy from all this disruption? The local traders have been hoodwinked into thinking that any loss in visitor numbers will be compensated by extra trade after the Olympics. The Olympics need Greenwich more than Greenwich needs the Olympics.</p>
<p>So, while Greenwich Council supports this event for the sake of local pride, a few contracts and temporary jobs, and free riding lessons for the disadvantaged, we, the residents of Greenwich and users of Greenwich Park, are expected to sit back and watch this nightmare turn into a reality. Or we can object to this undemocratic decision and press for a more suitable venue for the equestrian events.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monopoly Competition: Mayfair by rob</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/magazine/monopoly-competition-mayfair/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the entries - I've chosen Gloucester Circus as the winner here, which means DaveH48 and Lorraine both receive one entry in the prize draw.
Look out for the next post where will be trying to find choose the Greenwich alternative to Park Lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the entries - I&#8217;ve chosen Gloucester Circus as the winner here, which means DaveH48 and Lorraine both receive one entry in the prize draw.<br />
Look out for the next post where will be trying to find choose the Greenwich alternative to Park Lane.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monopoly Competition: Mayfair by Competition: Win a Greenwich Monopoly Set &#124; Greenwich.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://www.greenwich.co.uk/magazine/monopoly-competition-mayfair/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Competition: Win a Greenwich Monopoly Set &#124; Greenwich.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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