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	<title>Comments on: Greenwich Hospital Respond to Andrew Gilligan</title>
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		<title>By: Deniz Balabaner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deniz Balabaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need urgently have a contact with a responsible person About a Greenwich Market (indoor) management. I have a big complain about organisations,plan and relationship between traders and managers...You have no idea in your office,that how the managers play a big rolles with their own personal roules make themselves their ego every day became bigger and bigger.How they play a big role on market traders life ... Like cat and mause history...I have all details and documents with me,before I go to law want to inform you ,please contact with me if you really seriously want to know what happened in your market daily....The managers playing like a GOD there... Thanks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need urgently have a contact with a responsible person About a Greenwich Market (indoor) management. I have a big complain about organisations,plan and relationship between traders and managers&#8230;You have no idea in your office,that how the managers play a big rolles with their own personal roules make themselves their ego every day became bigger and bigger.How they play a big role on market traders life &#8230; Like cat and mause history&#8230;I have all details and documents with me,before I go to law want to inform you ,please contact with me if you really seriously want to know what happened in your market daily&#8230;.The managers playing like a GOD there&#8230; Thanks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Guillery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Guillery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before it had a naval hospital, before, even, it had a royal palace, Greenwich had a market. For a very long time the market would have been a humble, generally ugly and basically functional presence. Around Church Street, Greenwich has always carried on as a more or less ordinary town; for the last few centuries it has happened to be spectacularly set off alongside architectural masterpieces. The market moved from time to time until the early nineteenth century when Greenwich Hospital adopted a cleansing and comprehensive approach and, through force majeure, and against strong objections (in undemocratic times), placed the market within its present island site. In the nearly 200 years since then the market has re-asserted itself as humble and un-designed, evolving through various low-key and small-scale redevelopments and conversions. Despite the best attempts of Georgian improvers, the vernacular character of this part of the town of Greenwich has endured. 

It is heterogeneity that makes Greenwich special – grandiose here, cramped there; rationally laid out here, eccentrically irregular there; great institutions here, modest local traders there. This is a World Heritage Site not just because it has great Baroque architecture, or the Prime Meridian, or a Royal Park, but because the whole varied ensemble, including the muddle of the town, works together to make something marvellous and unique. For both residents and visitors Greenwich Market and its peculiar mix of non-standard and, presumably, low-rent local shops are important parts of the picturesque charm of the place, vital elements in the genius loci, the powerful local distinctiveness of Greenwich. 
 
These proposals fail to see this. The undemonstrative and utilitarian post-war rebuildings and conversions of the market got it right, making do and mending. Notwithstanding Joseph Kay’s best efforts, big-name architecture goes againt the grain and is out of place here. The market clearly does need maintenance, perhaps even a recovering of its roof, but in a World Heritage Site there should be a presumption in favour of leaving well enough alone. By way of outside comparisons, the approach should be more that adopted at Borough Market than at Spitalfields Market. 

The requirements of an institutional property holder to maximise its income surely hold no weight in planning terms anywhere, let alone in a place that has been recognised as a World Heritage Site. If this scheme goes ahead Greenwich will lose a crucial part of what makes it what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before it had a naval hospital, before, even, it had a royal palace, Greenwich had a market. For a very long time the market would have been a humble, generally ugly and basically functional presence. Around Church Street, Greenwich has always carried on as a more or less ordinary town; for the last few centuries it has happened to be spectacularly set off alongside architectural masterpieces. The market moved from time to time until the early nineteenth century when Greenwich Hospital adopted a cleansing and comprehensive approach and, through force majeure, and against strong objections (in undemocratic times), placed the market within its present island site. In the nearly 200 years since then the market has re-asserted itself as humble and un-designed, evolving through various low-key and small-scale redevelopments and conversions. Despite the best attempts of Georgian improvers, the vernacular character of this part of the town of Greenwich has endured. </p>
<p>It is heterogeneity that makes Greenwich special – grandiose here, cramped there; rationally laid out here, eccentrically irregular there; great institutions here, modest local traders there. This is a World Heritage Site not just because it has great Baroque architecture, or the Prime Meridian, or a Royal Park, but because the whole varied ensemble, including the muddle of the town, works together to make something marvellous and unique. For both residents and visitors Greenwich Market and its peculiar mix of non-standard and, presumably, low-rent local shops are important parts of the picturesque charm of the place, vital elements in the genius loci, the powerful local distinctiveness of Greenwich. </p>
<p>These proposals fail to see this. The undemonstrative and utilitarian post-war rebuildings and conversions of the market got it right, making do and mending. Notwithstanding Joseph Kay’s best efforts, big-name architecture goes againt the grain and is out of place here. The market clearly does need maintenance, perhaps even a recovering of its roof, but in a World Heritage Site there should be a presumption in favour of leaving well enough alone. By way of outside comparisons, the approach should be more that adopted at Borough Market than at Spitalfields Market. </p>
<p>The requirements of an institutional property holder to maximise its income surely hold no weight in planning terms anywhere, let alone in a place that has been recognised as a World Heritage Site. If this scheme goes ahead Greenwich will lose a crucial part of what makes it what it is.</p>
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