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Blog posts on Greenwich.co.uk that mention or are related to historic Greenwich Market at the heart of maritime Greenwich. Greenwich Market is owned by the Greenwich Hospital naval charity.

Andrew Gilligan: Is the Market Development in Financial Trouble?

June 3, 2009 By Andrew Gilligan

GREENWICH Hospital may be running into financial difficulties with its controversial plan to redevelop Greenwich Market, a leaked email shows.

The email, obtained by greenwich.co.uk, shows that the Hospital’s property consultant, Gleeds, is appealing for “grant funding” from Greenwich Council to help it complete the £29 million “regeneration.”

Greenwich Hospital confirmed to us that it has also approached the Heritage Lottery Fund for help with funding the redevelopment.

Its spokesman, David McFarlane, insisted that the approaches were for funding “at the margins” and “the whole project team is working on the assumption that we can fund [the redevelopment] from our own resources.”

However, Martin Sands, the Hospital’s director, does say in the charity’s latest annual accounts that the Hospital suffered a drop in the value of its assets of £6.5 million last year “as a result of a sharp decrease in the stock markets.” Its quoted investments declined by more than 13% over the year.

Those accounts only cover the period to March 2008, since when there has been a far more dramatic collapse in the values of shares and property – likely to have taken the Hospital’s losses to far greater levels.

The impact of the credit crunch appears to have been one reason why the Hospital’s planning application for the Market site – originally expected in “autumn 2008,” according to the annual report – has been delayed until now.

Mr McFarlane told greenwich.co.uk in autumn 2008 that the scheme was being reworked “to keep the cost base down.” As a result of the reworking, the most revenue-generating aspects of the scheme have been increased – such as the “boutique” hotel, now increased in size by 73 per cent on the original proposal, from 60 to 104 rooms.

However, the latest email shows that with the crisis in commercial property showing no signs of easing, the reworking may not have been enough.

The email was written on Monday this week by Tonderayi Matopodzi at Gleeds, the property consultants used by the Hospital, and is to Mervyn Fernandes, an officer at Greenwich Council.

It says: “We are currently exploring whether any potential grant funding may be available through Greenwich Council for our client, Greenwich Hospital, who are propos[ing the] Greenwich Market regeneration.

“The project will have a strong impact on inclusion and cohesion, sustainability and prosperity..[it will] enhance Greenwich’s attractiveness as a world heritage site, conserve and enhance the historic environment [and] keep many of the familiar and much-loved features of the Greenwich island site.” No specific amount was demanded in the email.

At the time of writing, Greenwich Council have not told me what their response to it was – I’ll update this post when I hear from them. There would clearly be an outcry if Greenwich Council actually agreed to pay public money towards the destruction of historic Greenwich.

I, for one, would strongly dispute that the redevelopment will enhance the world heritage site or “conserve the historic environment.” The application to the Heritage Lottery Fund is pretty cheeky for a proposal that will clearly destroy part of Greenwich’s heritage. And it also seems deeply questionable to appeal for money from the same body, Greenwich Council, which is supposed to be determining your planning application.

Does the demand for funds mean that in planning terms the scheme is already a done deal? Had the council had effectively given Greenwich Hospital the nod, I asked McFarlane? He insisted not: “We have had a lot of discussions with the council, we hope we’ll get a recommendation for approval, but we’ve had no tip-offs,” he said.

Richard Fleming, UK head of restructuring at the accountants KPMG, said last week that commercial property failures so far were just the “tip of the iceberg… we predict a wave of fallouts in the commercial property market as the true value of losses becomes apparent.”

With retailers everywhere cutting back, with vacancy levels increasing exponentially and with that kind of warning out there, it does indeed seem a very risky time to start building a new shopping centre.

Media, local and political opposition to the redevelopment continues to build. The current issue of Private Eye carries a critical piece. In my own newspaper, the Standard, the leader of the opposition on Greenwich Council, Spencer Drury, calls the scheme “aesthetic vandalism” which is “out of keeping” with the World Heritage site.

In the end, however, the forces of the financial markets may prove to be the most powerful ally of our market. Here’s hoping.

Filed Under: Andrew Gilligan Tagged With: Greenwich Market

Greenwich Hospital Respond to Andrew Gilligan

May 29, 2009 By Rob Powell

Earlier this week, Andrew Gilligan wrote about the plans for the redevelopment of Greenwich Market. Here is the response of the market owners, Greenwich Hospital.

Temporary Market

The Environmental Statement referred to assessed the principle locations of the temporary market not the final proposals. We assessed a maximum site area of 10,000 sqm (to include storage, access etc) to  accommodate the temporary market. The final details of the temporary market will be submitted to Greenwich Council in early June. The temporary market will allow for the same number of stallholders as existing and will be of a similar size in terms of floor space.

Paragraph 3.16 of the Environmental Statement refers to the gross Market area which includes the circulation area in front of the shops and the seating areas of George II and the Coach and Horses.

Paragraph 3.25 of the Environmental Statement refers to a brief for the temporary market with a floor space requirement of 1,000 sqm which was an approximate area and not what was tested in site terms. The Environmental Statement relates to the main site application and was written before the final plans for the temporary market were fully defined. The temporary market will be judged on its own merits through the planning application process. The proposed marquee will accommodate the same number of stalls on a similar size footprint.

Retailer relocation

Greenwich Hospital is in discussions with all the retailers in the market and has a relocation strategy in place. Through this process it will be able to relocate all the existing retailers from the current market during construction either into other Hospital owned units in the town centre or 6 of them to the temporary market units.

Obviously it is difficult to give specifics due to the fact that our discussions with tenants are ongoing and confidential.

We have just received planning consent for a change of use of 2-5 College Approach to create 4 retail units. There is only 1 vacant unit in the Greenwich Hospital Estate as the other is under offer and this is by a tenant moving from elsewhere in the estate, however this will in due course create 1 more available unit within the estate.

There is another unit on the estate that the tenant has chosen to vacate and so we expect that this will come back to Greenwich Hospital soon. All this will total 7 units, which together with the 6 retail units in the temporary market will provide 13 options to relocate tenants. This is not withstanding the fact that some tenants have indicated that they would rather leave the estate than be relocated either due to the direction their businesses are taking or because they were merely taking advantage of a short-term let opportunity. There are other possible relocation units around the Hospital’s Estate, for example, the Greenwich Tourist Information Office will vacate 46 Greenwich Church Street to return to the Old Royal Naval College next March.

Regenerated market floor space

Although the covered area of the market has reduced slightly by less than 10% the actual market footprint has remained broadly the same, as have the number of stalls that can be housed. This point is dealt with fully in the Design and Access Statement of the planning application.

The historic footprint remains and is very slightly wider, so the existing stall layout can be accommodated.

The proposed canopy has fewer columns/masts than the existing canopy. They are wider in diameter but they are dual-purpose, as they will carry rainwater down and electrical supplies up to high level lighting etc.

Increase in build density

The total floorspace of the proposals has increased from the existing floor space. This is partly related to the reuse of the existing inefficient service yards with the provision of a new building to the west of the existing market.

There are increases in building heights within the site to accommodate the new facilities. However, the buildings remain below the roofline of the existing Nelson Road roofs and are hardly visible from outside the site.

Transport and Access

The person trips obtained for the hotel are generated from survey information from a series of comparable London hotels found within the TRAVL database, the standard database for trip generation used by local authorities and TfL in London.

Analysis of this information shows that the trips associated with a hotel are typically spread out throughout the day. As such there would be little impact during either the morning or evening peak periods.

Planning policy encourages car free developments in town centres with good public transport links. However, the arrangements were discussed with the Council and stakeholders.

Whilst some guests, when initially arriving, may do so by taxi, the close proximity of the Docklands Light Railway station will encourage the guests, many of whom are likely to be tourists visiting Historic Greenwich, not to drive or use a taxi.

On a daily basis, many of the trips will be guests who have already checked into the hotel, travelling on foot to tourist destinations in Greenwich, or travelling by Docklands Light Railway or Thames Clipper River service to Central London.

The proportion of guests who choose to travel by taxi will be collected by taxis stopping briefly on King William Walk. Due to the dispersed nature of the guests’ arrival and departure patterns this is unlikely to cause significant traffic impact. Any increase in vehicles would be more than offset by the removal of the vehicular traffic associated with the current office buildings within the market and the car park in Durnford Street.

It should also be noted that, in order to reduce the likelihood of taxis waiting on King William Walk consideration is currently being given to the introduction of a system to enable the hotel to summon a taxi from the nearby taxi rank on Greenwich Church Street for guests leaving the hotel.

Public consultation

Greenwich Hospital has not kept ‘disturbing details of the development quiet’, on the contrary the consultation website www.greenwichmarketconsultation.co.uk aims to be transparent and informative which is why agendas and minutes of Key Stakeholder minutes are all online.

Whilst the results of the October 2007 exhibition showed that 50% of respondees commented that they supported the scheme with suggestions; many of these suggestions have now been incorporated into the scheme and therefore we do count these individuals as supportive.

Below is a summary of some of the main issues which have been influenced by the responses of the local planning authority, the Key Stakeholder Consultative Group, Community Liaison Group and all other stakeholders and residents:

  • Phasing of the market regeneration was rejected by Greenwich Hospital after the market traders and retailers suggested it would make trading very difficult. Greenwich Hospital responded to this by seeking to find a venue to relocate the market within Greenwich during the regeneration period.
  • Cutty Sark Gardens was considered as the first option for temporary market relocation in
    accordance with market traders wishes.
  • Market Roof: Hopkins Architects refined the design of the new market and extended coverage of the roof to both ends of the market to enable the largest number of traders to be protected from the weather; this was a direct result of concerns expressed by traders.
  • The Community Liaison Group (CLG) was set up following a decision of the KSCG to set up a body to oversee and facilitate the move of the market to a temporary location and to include representatives of the community and residents in the CLG.
  • The Old Royal Naval College was selected as a temporary market location following discussions with the Key Stakeholder Consultative Group and market traders.
  • Delaying the Closure of Greenwich Market: After many meetings with market traders and after consideration of the effects of the economic slowdown on the market traders, Greenwich Hospital decided to keep the market trading throughout Christmas 2009 in the existing market location to give traders the best chance of trading successfully over the crucial Christmas period.
  • Stall Design in the market will be worked up by Greenwich Space Management and Hopkins Architects with the help and assistance of traders who will be utilising the new stall
    designs.
  • Construction impact – development of a strategy to address the construction impacts of the market regeneration on surrounding residents has been and will continue to be addressed by ensuring the Community Liaison Group continues to meet post planning application.
  • Finish and materials – The finish and materials were the subject of a considerable number of comments made by members of the community following the Public Exhibition in October 2007 and these reflected a wish that the selected finishes should fit well within the context of Greenwich Town Centre and should be of high quality. Greenwich Hospital and Hopkins Architects considered these comments carefully and removed the red brick from the interior walls of the market,  replacing them with timber.
  • Accessibility for disabled people was considered after Greenwich Association for Disabled People submitted an email to Greenwich Hospital which stated a preference for even flooring, flat thresholds, lavatories with disabled access and additional enhanced accessibility features.
  • Second Public Exhibition was agreed by the KSCG and by Greenwich Council officers as a good method of communicating the final market regeneration plans to as wide a group of residents as possible. Greenwich Hospital was happy to facilitate this exhibition.
  • On Site storage capacity in the regenerated market area will match the existing on site storage capacity. This strategy has been developed following discussions with market traders on how storage in the new market would operate.

Greenwich Hospital believes that the application for the regeneration is in accordance with Greenwich Council’s Unitary Development Plan and that it will demonstrate the highest standards in design, landscaping, detailing and finish and that the regeneration will maintain and preserve the architectural integrity and identity of the town centre. Greenwich Hospital does not believe that the essential character of the market will change. Rather the hotel will make the market an attractive place for more people for more of the time and bring a more positive atmosphere to the market in the evenings and on non market trading days. The new roof will be a considerable improvement on the current roof. There is broad support for the principle of regeneration from many Greenwich stakeholders and residents but that is not evident in the article.

It is particularly disappointing that someone who has written on the subject so often failed to attend the recent public exhibition when he could have discussed the plans in more detail Greenwich Hospital response to Andrew Gilligan article of 27 May 2009 with members of the project team; even though he was explicitly invited to do so by the Member of Parliament.

Filed Under: Magazine Tagged With: Andrew Gilligan, Greenwich Market

Greenwich Market: Disturbing Details the Developers Have Kept Quiet

May 27, 2009 By Andrew Gilligan

Greenwich Market (with hotel!)

AN INFALLIBLE rule for journalists is that the glossier any material, the more worthless its contents. In their battle to pasteurise Greenwich Market, the PRs have over the last eighteen months put out a great deal of glossy paper. Ignore it. The actual, dinstinctly matt-finish, planning application documents are much, much more interesting.

The key document is the Environmental Statement (ES). On your behalf, I spent an afternoon last week reading through its 340 pages, along with all the other documents, available here. I also looked at all the minutes back to 2007 of the ” key stakeholders’ consultation group” (KSCG) set up by the developers. Download those minutes here. Then I read the report produced by Electoral Reform Services (ERS) on the developers’ much-hyped “consultation exercise” – undertaken as long ago as October 2007, incidentally. Download that report here.

Finally, I looked at Greenwich Council’s own statement of its planning policy, the Unitary Development Plan – downloadable here.

And in all this I found some fascinating facts – all there, documented, in black and white – that Greenwich Hospital and its PR allies, such as the Greenwich Society and Nick Raynsford MP, have unfortunately forgotten to tell us. These lead me to the following conclusions.

1. The only way Greenwich Council can pass this application is by totally overriding its own planning policy.

The Unitary Development Plan is quite clear. The market is part of the world heritage site. Policy TC7 states: “The Council will protect and enhance the site and setting of the Maritime Greenwich World Heritage Site…. Development within it should preserve and enhance its essential and unique character and appearance.” Indisputably, the new scheme will not do this.

Policy TC8 states that any new development anywhere in the town centre must “demonstrate the highest standards in design, landscaping, detailing, and finishing.” From the drawings, the design standards of the proposed scheme look distinctly middling and generic.

2. The temporary market proposed during the construction period will involve a big loss of stall and shop space, freezing out some traders entirely and thus probably destroying their businesses. It will also damage the businesses of all traders, since the temporary site proposed is less central, less visible and less likely to be visited than the existing site.

According to the ES, para 3.16, the market stalls area is currently 1456 sq m. There are also 20 shops in the buildings proposed for demolition, of which 18 are tenanted. The temporary market area will be “approximately 1000 sq m” (ES para 3.25) with 6 shops – a reduction of one-third in stall space and two-thirds in the number of shop units.

Some of the 12 displaced shops may be relocatable elsewhere in the Greenwich Hospital estate, but there are currently only 2 vacant shops in the GH estate (outside the market) – and it is hard to imagine that a further 10 vacancies will open up in the next six months.

According to the KSCG minutes, the site proposed for the temporary market is in the north-west corner of the Naval College grounds. This site is somewhat tucked away. Although it is on the route from the pier to the town centre, most visitors arrive by bus, DLR or train, and it is not on the routes between those arrival points and the centre. The site is also blocked from view of the town centre by the Pepys Building and the building site of the Cutty Sark.

3. The permanent market will involve a smaller loss of stall space.

The proposed new permanent market will be 1316 sq m (ES para 3.16) – a reduction of 10% on now. 18 roof support pillars in the middle of the space (rather than at the edges, as now) and the need for a clear walkway for guests to pass between the two halves of the hotel will further reduce stall space.

4. There will be a vast increase in overall build density and floorspace.

The total built footprint on the site will more than double, from 3165 to 7376 sq m (ES para 3.15). The new hotel is now 73% bigger than originally proposed (was 60 rooms in 2007 according to the KSCG minutes, is now 104 rooms.) Far from being a “boutique,” it will be the third largest hotel in the borough.

5. The damaging transport effects of the new hotel have been grossly underestimated. The developers’ assumptions are unrealistic.

The ES (para 13.78-79) claims that the new 104-room hotel, accommodating 200-plus guests when full, will create only 18 extra person movements in the peak hour – surely unrealistic. Still more unrealistic is the claim (ES para 13.78-9) that 16 of those movements would be on foot, to and from public transport. Most guests arriving at or departing 5-star luxury hotels with heavy luggage do not travel by public transport. The coaches, taxis and cars which will bring and collect them will cause significant traffic impact on the busy one-way system – already one of the most congested places in London – because there will be nowhere else for them to stop and load/ unload but right in the middle of the traffic flow. There is also a bus terminus across from the proposed hotel entrance which cannot practicably be relocated, further adding to the lack of road capacity at this point.

All this is contrary to the expressed policy in the UDP (TC12) that the Council “will…seek to reduce the effects of through traffic on Greenwich town centre.”

UDP policy M40 also states that “developments generating/ attracting coach traffic will need to make provision for dropping off and picking up, coach manoeuvring on site.” This is clearly not the case with the proposed hotel. Policy M40 also states that coach traffic may be a reason for refusal of planning permission.

6. The consultation with the public was not as extensive or as supportive as claimed.

The only public consultation event was in October 2007 – more than eighteen months ago. It consisted of an exhbition open for a total of 14 hours across only two days and involving, in any case, a plan substantially different from the one now proposed. The developers’ other efforts (eg newsletters) are examples of “transmit” rather than “receive.”

At the 2007 event, 333 responses were received of which only 79, or 23%, fully supported the scheme and a further 50% raised reservations. (source: ERS report.) Most of the reservations (eg the need to maintain the traditional appearance of the market) have not been adequately addressed in the application – it is therefore wrong to count these individuals as supporters, as the developers do.

Although the official deadline for objections has now closed, councils in practice normally continue to accept objections after the deadline. So it’s probably not too late to object, if you still want to. The email address is david.gittens@greenwich.gov.uk.

PS: I enjoyed the response of Tim Barnes, the Greenwich Society chairman, to my attack on the society in last week’s column. I fear it is a sign of weakness, however, that he had to make something up to support his case. Mr Barnes quotes me as claiming that I am the “voice of Greenwich,” something I have never in fact said or written. I would never be so presumptuous – unlike Mr Barnes, who dismisses concerns about the redevelopment of the market as “not representative” of local people’s views, even though, by his society’s own admission, it has done nothing to ascertain what local people’s views actually are.

Filed Under: Andrew Gilligan Tagged With: Greenwich Market

Andrew Gilligan: What’s The Point Of The Greenwich Society?

May 20, 2009 By Andrew Gilligan

AS GREENWICH faces an unprecedented onslaught of simultaneous development, I am starting to wonder what is the point of the Greenwich Society.

One of its principal aims is “to protect the town’s heritage.” But on the two greatest threats of the moment to the town’s heritage – the redevelopment of the market, and the Olympics events in the park – the Greenwich Society is a supporter and apologist for the heritage abusers.

Its committee fought tooth and nail a substantial number of members who wanted it to oppose the Olympics in the Park, as the Friends of Greenwich Park and the Blackheath Society have done. (Interestingly, the Friends and the Blackheath Society committees were also in favour of the Olympics, until forced to reverse their position by their members.)

Now, we find the Greenwich Society’s spokesman, Ray Smith, actually appearing – complete with photo – in the PR material put out by the developers who would turn Greenwich Market from a bustling and vibrant part of the town’s heritage into a modern shopping precinct and hotel with stalls attached.

Greenwich Market

Mr Smith says he is “pleased that Greenwich Hospital is bringing forward this planning application, which will help revitalise Greenwich Town Centre.” In fact, it is the existing market which has already “revitalised Greenwich Town Centre” and the new one which threatens that revival.

Under the management of Urban Space, what was in the early 80s an almost derelict fruit and veg operation has been turned into space that is bursting with life five days a week. On Saturdays and Sundays, it is scarcely possible to move in the market, so dense are the crowds. How much more “revitalised” can you get?

The fact that the new market looks like an airport terminal is not the only problem with it. Tucked away in the minutes of the “key stakeholder consultation group” meeting for 26 November 2008 is the uncomfortable revelation that “it was confirmed that the scheme resulted in a net gain in retail space but possibly a decrease in the market stall space.” More shops, less market – how can that possibly be described as a “revitalisation?”

One of the Greenwich Society’s other “key objectives” is “effective traffic management.” It is hard to see how the construction of a 104-bedroom hotel with its traffic entrance right in the middle of the flow of the one-way system can accomplish this.

I rang Mr Smith last night and asked him whether he had found anyone in Greenwich who actually liked the new market scheme. There was a short pause. “The members of the executive committee of the Greenwich Society like it,” he said. Yes, but had they made any active effort to find out what anyone else in Greenwich thought? “We have a facility on our website which says ‘tell us your views,’ he says. “Nobody has said they like it and nobody has said they don’t like it.”

There’s other problem with this. The item on the Greenwich Society website asking for people’s views on the market was posted on 20 April – in other words, after the redevelopers’ PR material was produced quoting Mr Smith as a fan of the scheme. So even if anyone had expressed their views, it would have made no difference to the Greenwich Society.

The real key to the society’s acquiescence, I expect, is that “key stakeholder consultation group.” The idea of such groups is seldom really to consult people, but to co-opt them into whatever has already been decided, while perhaps allowing them to make a few minor adjustments along the way.

Mr Smith did indeed say that they’d secured some changes since the original 2007 proposal – but as far as I can see, the changes since then (a 39% increase in the size of the hotel, a new roof, the removal of the cobbles) have only made the plan worse, are indeed among the most objectionable things about it.

Over the issues threatening our town, the Greenwich Society have by their own admission spent far more time talking to the likes of LOCOG and the Market developers than they have in talking to the people of Greenwich. Enfolded into the cosy embrace of “key stakeholderdom,” the Greenwich Society have forgetten their actual purpose – to find out and represent the views of local residents – and have instead become adjuncts of, and advocates for, the developers.

They are providing PR cover for the forces seeking to mar Greenwich with unnecessary, unwanted and damaging development – which is, in fact, far worse than if they never even existed at all. We may not need to “revitalise” the town centre – but we certainly need to “revitalise,” or perhaps replace, the Greenwich Society.

Filed Under: Andrew Gilligan Tagged With: Greenwich Market

Petition: Postpone Decision on Greenwich Market

May 14, 2009 By Rob Powell

Reason
In light of Greenwich Hospital’s recent ‘consultation’ which took place after they had submitted plans for the redevelopment to Greenwich Council I would like the council to turn down any applications that have not undergone a real, open and transparent consultation process.

Petition
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Filed Under: Petitions Tagged With: Greenwich Market, Petition

Andrew Gilligan: Like Having the Builders Round… Forever

May 13, 2009 By Andrew Gilligan

I was struck by a comment from a reader called Paul on last week’s column about Greenwich Market, and think it deserves a wider circulation. He wrote of the danger that in the run-up to that longed-for event of which we all dream, the Olympics, Greenwich will become little more than a series of building sites.

As well as the market, there’s the Olympic development in Greenwich Park, the Ofer Wing of the Maritime Museum (which will also affect the park), the foot tunnel, the old Village Market site, the new pier, the Cutty Sark, Greenwich Reach. As Paul says, “no tourist will want to walk around a load of building sites for the next three years and it won’t be long before word gets out that Greenwich is closed. In the rush to celebrate the Olympics fortnight, it seems that a long-term overview has been thrown out of the window.”

There are plenty of places that are unattractive, provide inadequate public amenities and need lots of work doing to them. But Greenwich isn’t one of them. I think (I’m biased, of course) that it’s one of the nicest areas in London. It just doesn’t need “regeneration,” especially not the airport-terminal kind that awaits us in the market.

Naturally, there are grotty bits – in the town centre, I’d nominate that bland, faceless block which houses Somerfield. But those aren’t the bits they’ll be tearing down. Those are the bits they’ll be copying.

So why has everyone suddenly, it seems, decided that what Greenwich needs is a complete rebuild – all at once? As Paul suggests, the Olympics must have something to do with it. One of the worst things about the Games is the way that a single fortnight has come to dominate, even monopolise, official thinking, as if it is somehow more important than all the months and years which go before it and after it.

It isn’t, of course. The Olympics will be with us for two weeks. The new market could be with us for a century. But the way it’s looking, the priorities of the two weeks will mean that the project for the century is rushed through the planning process without proper scrutiny, then thrown up in months – and is, as a result, far worse than it should be.

We need to stop. We need to take our time. We need to tell ourselves that in the long run, the Olympics simply do not matter. Within months of the closing ceremony, they will be all but forgotten by almost everyone. The market, however, will be in our faces for decades. The short-term goal of a shiny Olympic fortnight is not remotely a good enough reason to compromise Greenwich’s long-term future.

We need to tell ourselves that even during the fortnight, the Greenwich end of the Olympics will not matter. The centre of attention will be on the athletics and the swimming, seven miles to the north. The horse events will get half an hour on TV. There won’t be many Olympic-related visitors to Greenwich – they’ll all be heading for Stratford. Greenwich Council may want to put on a show, but not many people will be coming.

Building white elephants at Stratford is bad enough. But at least some people will want to see them, and they will be safely out of sight of the rest of us. Building white elephants in the middle of a successful town centre is far worse – and the error is compounded by the fact that not many of the people the “improvements” are supposed to attract will even be interested.

PS: I forgot to give the address for objections to the market planning application last week. Emails should be sent to david.gittens@greenwich.gov.uk, quoting reference numbers 09/0829/F and 09/0830/C. Gittens’ postal address is Crown Building, 48 Woolwich New Roas, SE18 6HQ.

Act soon – you only have until 26 May.

Filed Under: Andrew Gilligan Tagged With: Greenwich Foot Tunnel, Greenwich Market, Greenwich Park, London 2012 Olympics, National Maritime Museum, Stockwell Street

Andrew Gilligan: Act Now To Save Greenwich Market

May 6, 2009 By Andrew Gilligan

Greenwich Market

AS THE proposals to redevelop Greenwich Market start their journey through the planning process, we need to be clear about two things.

Firstly, the current plan is not substantially different from Greenwich Hospital’s discredited 2006 scheme to demolish the Market, dropped after a public outcry. The main difference is that this time the PR operation has been smoother.

Secondly, the plans – whether you like them or not – represent a fundamental transformation, changing a nineteenth-century market into a 21st-century shopping precinct with added market stalls.

“But it’s not nineteenth-century,” I hear you say. The buildings lining the two longest sides of the market are from the 1950s.

That is, of course, perfectly true. But somehow, despite that. the market feels old. The key to that feeling lies in two things – the low ceiling, and the cobbled floor. In the new scheme, both of those things will be destroyed.

Artists’ impressions of the scheme show what is now the central market area covered with a high, contemporary, plastic or membrane translucent roof, supported by at least sixteen thick stainless-steel pillars.

The current roof hides the Fifties buildings. The new roof would be at least two to three storeys high, exposing the new contemporary buildings to be constructed either side.

It looks like a closed-sided version of Stratford bus station – a building I admire, and which works well in a modern setting like Stratford, but which is wholly out of keeping with the historic centre of Greenwich. It is a world heritage site, folks – you do know we’ve only got four of them, don’t you?

The lowness of the current roof contributes greatly to the intense, warren-like atmosphere of the market, a place which feels like a hunting ground for hidden treasure, or at least scented candles. The new version has as much intensity and excitement as the central square at Bluewater.

The other thing that makes the market feel old is the cobbles. These, too, will be ripped up, in favour of standard setts and slabs. Health and safety, that evergreen answer to every blandifier’s prayers, is being cited in support of this vandalism.

The brochure promises to “increase the total amount of retail space” – not necessarily a bad thing, and it does seem from the plan that the new shops will still be quite small. Good; but I have a nasty feeling that they may not stay small in the finished scheme.

The main difference from the 2006 scheme is that instead of being “luxury flats,” the new buildings around the market are now to be a 100-room “boutique hotel.” A hundred rooms is actually almost 25% more than at the existing town centre hotel, the Ibis, which has 82 rooms. A hundred rooms isn’t a boutique, chaps – it’s a department store.

What will the new hotel buildings be like? If they are supposed to be in place by the Olympics, that doesn’t leave much time for niceties like decent design and careful construction. They are high, at least four storeys, potentially overshadowing the listed buildings on Church Street and King William Walk. My concern is that they will be the same kind of blank structures that line the pedestrian passage at Cutty Sark DLR station, and that the public spaces between them will be as charmless as that passage.

The hotel, in fact, could be where the Hospital’s grand plans prove, in the end, unworkable. Greenwich Council may never have shown much concern for the town’s heritage – but I don’t imagine (I could be wrong about this) that they want Greenwich to be an even worse traffic jam than it is already.

The main entrance of the hotel could cause just that. It will be right on the busiest part of the one-way system, on King William Walk. The Hospital claims that most guests will arrive by public transport – surely nonsense. Few people carrying luggage for a stay in an expensive hotel (I think we can assume this hotel will be expensive) want to, or can, carry it on public transport. Most will arrive by car, by taxi or perhaps, if they are in a party, by coach.

There is nowhere to unload such vehicles except right in the middle of the traffic flow (and the hotel entrance also has the distinction of being opposite a bus terminus, further narrowing the available space.) Rather like the fluttering butterfly wings in South America which caused the proverbial earthquake in Japan, the arrival of a coach containing fifty tourists and their luggage in Greenwich will be felt all the way back to Tower Bridge.

The other main difference from 2006 is that Greenwich Hospital has made a better fist of its PR. Back then, Nick Raynsford, the local MP, told me that the plans were a “fundamental change to the character of the area” which would make people “up in arms.”

That fundamental change, as I’ve suggested, remains. But Mr Raynsford now seems less unhappy about it. He’s one of the “stakeholders” that the Hospital’s PR firm has managed to butter up.

Ray Smith, from the Greenwich Society, is quoted by the PRs as saying that the proposal will “help revitalise Greenwich town centre.” But it is impossible to see how the market – teeming, buzzing, thronged – could be any more vital than it is already. Indeed, in 2006, a certain Nick Raynsford told me: “The market is hugely popular. You only have to go down there at the weekend to see that it’s absolutely packed and it makes a big contribution to the character of Greenwich.”

So what’s changed? Perhaps the local worthies have been persuaded by the results of the “consultation” the Hospital conducted. They shouldn’t be: the questions were so loaded as to be almost worthless.

The lack of fuss, so far, can also be explained by some of the core reassurances being made about the development. The latest brochure claims that “the overall objective of the plan is to maintain all the principles of Greenwich Market.” There’s only one problem with this: it is just not true.

But the Hospital’s need to say it does unwittingly reveal another truth: that it knows most people in Greenwich do want to “maintain the principles of Greenwich Market.” If you are among them, it is time to start objecting to this principle-destroying development.

Filed Under: Andrew Gilligan Tagged With: Greenwich Market, King William Walk

Greenwich Hospital Consults on Market Redevelopment

April 20, 2009 By Rob Powell

Greenwich Market (with hotel!)

Greenwich Hospital has announced it is to hold a second public exhibition with their final plans for the redevelopment of Greenwich Market.

Anyone interested in seeing wthat is being proposed is invited to attend the exhibition, where members of the project team will be on hand to answer questions.

The exhibition will be at 22 Nelson Road on:
Friday 24th April, 4 pm – 8 pm and
Saturday 25th April, 10 am – 4 pm.

Whilst the exhibition is on, the displays will be online at the consultation website.

Following the public exhibition, the exhibition boards will be on display at 5b Greenwich Market from 9 am to 5 pm from Monday 27th April to Sunday 3rd May.

Filed Under: News Tagged With: Greenwich Market

Boutique Hotel Operator Selected

April 16, 2009 By Rob Powell

Greenwich Market (with hotel!)

Bespoke Hotel Company Limited have been chosen to operate the proposed new boutique hotel which will be included in the redevelopment of Greenwich Market.

If planning permission is granted, the new 100 bedroom hotel will be at the eastern edge of the market. The MD of Bespoke Hotels, Robin Sheppard, said they plan to deliver a “truly iconic hotel to form the centrepiece of the regeneration of the Greenwich Market”.

More info

Filed Under: News Tagged With: Greenwich Market, Hotels

Daily Photo 25/02/09: Hide All

February 25, 2009 By Rob Powell

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Hide All in Greenwich Market sells leathergoods and accessories.

Filed Under: Magazine Tagged With: Daily Photo, Greenwich Market

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